Not sure if this is a bug.

Hatonastick · 22nd July 2010, 10:24 AM

I'm using v6.5 full version running under Windows XP SP3 -- bought it very recently because I love how easy this program is to use.

Anyway I have this odd issue that only happens when I export .obj files. If I import, make my changes, then export to the same directory it seems to be fine, but if I decide I want to put the exported .obj file into another directory (which happens to be a long way in from the root of C:\) it suddenly crashes to the desktop without generating any warning messages. The models I'm importing/altering/exporting aren't complex and have very few triangles, and I can muck about with them as long as I like in the editor without this crash occurring. It just happens when I access the .obj export menu and start traversing directories.

Andy · 22nd July 2010, 12:31 PM

Please do some more testing and let us know what you find. Try the same with AC3D files. It may be a special letter in the file name or path that is causing the problem.

Hatonastick · 23rd July 2010, 03:33 AM

The name of the game I'm doing my own mod for (basically just to get used to modeling before I start doing my own for my own game) uses '&' in its installation folder name, but I used 'and' in the name of my work directory -- as I have to create a .BRF file for the game to read the model, I copy the model to the game directory by hand. It may just be pathname length. This is the path:

"C:\Documents and Settings\Jazz\Desktop\Work\Software\Mount and Blade Warband Mod\Rise of Ilanteus\Warband v1126"

As you can see it's not exactly short. Oddly enough as I'm traversing through directories to get there, the crash usually happens on the way there. I don't actually make it to the full path. I can import from and export to my Desktop just fine though without it crashing:

"C:\Documents and Settings\Jazz\Desktop"

Maybe I should run the error checker over my hard drive just to make sure I haven't got something weird going on with the file table. I once got very carried away with directories while sorting my work folder out and ended up with some ridiculously long pathnames (much longer than the above) but I eventually realised that was a bad idea and fixed it. Maybe I should also move my work directory to C:\ as it doesn't need to be on my Desktop, I just put it there to make things easy. In reality all I need is a link to the directory, not the directory itself on my desktop.

I even tried turning my virus checker off just in case something weird was happening there (it's the only thing to have changed on my computer since I bought AC3D).

Also I'm pretty sure the crash doesn't happen while loading and saving the model as a native AC3D file. I can double click on the AC3D format copy in the same directory as the one I'm trying to export the .obj to, and save it to that same directory as well -- just not export as.obj there.

As you suggested, I'll experiment and test some more to see if I can narrow it down a bit more, but so far the results have been pretty consistent.

lisa · 27th July 2010, 06:02 PM

Some of the AC3D plugins\exporters are unhappy with filenames with spaces in them. Try a folder with no spaces.

Hatonastick · 27th July 2010, 11:10 PM

I've not had a crash since my last post (which is why I haven't had any more info on the topic), but I have also rearranged most of the paths involved since then so that might have been the problem.

22nd July 2010, 10:24 AM	#1
Hatonastick Junior Member Junior member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4	Not sure if this is a bug. I'm using v6.5 full version running under Windows XP SP3 -- bought it very recently because I love how easy this program is to use. Anyway I have this odd issue that only happens when I export .obj files. If I import, make my changes, then export to the same directory it seems to be fine, but if I decide I want to put the exported .obj file into another directory (which happens to be a long way in from the root of C:\) it suddenly crashes to the desktop without generating any warning messages. The models I'm importing/altering/exporting aren't complex and have very few triangles, and I can muck about with them as long as I like in the editor without this crash occurring. It just happens when I access the .obj export menu and start traversing directories.

22nd July 2010, 12:31 PM	#2
Andy Administrator Professional user Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 4,565	Re: Not sure if this is a bug. Please do some more testing and let us know what you find. Try the same with AC3D files. It may be a special letter in the file name or path that is causing the problem.

23rd July 2010, 03:33 AM	#3
Hatonastick Junior Member Junior member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4	Re: Not sure if this is a bug. The name of the game I'm doing my own mod for (basically just to get used to modeling before I start doing my own for my own game) uses '&' in its installation folder name, but I used 'and' in the name of my work directory -- as I have to create a .BRF file for the game to read the model, I copy the model to the game directory by hand. It may just be pathname length. This is the path: "C:\Documents and Settings\Jazz\Desktop\Work\Software\Mount and Blade Warband Mod\Rise of Ilanteus\Warband v1126" As you can see it's not exactly short. Oddly enough as I'm traversing through directories to get there, the crash usually happens on the way there. I don't actually make it to the full path. I can import from and export to my Desktop just fine though without it crashing: "C:\Documents and Settings\Jazz\Desktop" Maybe I should run the error checker over my hard drive just to make sure I haven't got something weird going on with the file table. I once got very carried away with directories while sorting my work folder out and ended up with some ridiculously long pathnames (much longer than the above) but I eventually realised that was a bad idea and fixed it. Maybe I should also move my work directory to C:\ as it doesn't need to be on my Desktop, I just put it there to make things easy. In reality all I need is a link to the directory, not the directory itself on my desktop. I even tried turning my virus checker off just in case something weird was happening there (it's the only thing to have changed on my computer since I bought AC3D). Also I'm pretty sure the crash doesn't happen while loading and saving the model as a native AC3D file. I can double click on the AC3D format copy in the same directory as the one I'm trying to export the .obj to, and save it to that same directory as well -- just not export as.obj there. As you suggested, I'll experiment and test some more to see if I can narrow it down a bit more, but so far the results have been pretty consistent.

27th July 2010, 06:02 PM	#4
lisa Senior Member Professional user Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 917	Re: Not sure if this is a bug. Some of the AC3D plugins\exporters are unhappy with filenames with spaces in them. Try a folder with no spaces.

27th July 2010, 11:10 PM	#5
Hatonastick Junior Member Junior member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4	Re: Not sure if this is a bug. I've not had a crash since my last post (which is why I haven't had any more info on the topic), but I have also rearranged most of the paths involved since then so that might have been the problem.